What is the value of dialogue in a polarized world? In episode four of Collage, Dr. F. Willis Johnson and guest Dr. Kenann F. McKenzie, Director Generous Listening and Dialogue Center (GLADC), reflect on that question as well as curating of space and innovative practices where dialogue becomes a way of redress to the inequitable dimensions that tarnish the work of bridging and deliberative discourse.
Podcast: Generous listening: A new way to talk and understand





















Lorraine Marquez Eiler’s photo of her great-great grandparents and her great-grandparents, who would walk about 50 miles through the Sonoran Desert to the springs.
Construction equipment is seen near the U.S.-Mexico border just west of the Lukeville port of entry on Monday, Aug. 24, 2026. Credit: Stephanie Casanova
Rep. Adelita Grijalva, left, and Tohono O’odham Chairman Verlon Jose listen as Lorraine Marquez Eiler, a Hia-C’ed O’odham elder, shares how her ancestors would hold ceremonies at Quitobaquito Springs. Grijalva visited the springs with tribal leaders on Monday, Aug. 24, 2026. Credit: Stephanie Casanova
Sara Mae Williams, Justice of the Peace in Ajo and a Tohono O’odham citizen, shares their concerns regarding border wall construction on Tohono O’odham land at a town hall at the Ajo Plaza Rec Hall on Monday, Aug. 24, 2026. Credit: Stephanie Casanova