Podcast: How to have better political conversations OR ending this zombie apocalypse

“There’s people wandering around in packs, not thinking for themselves, seized by this mob mentality trying to spread their disease and destroy society. And you probably think, as I do, that you’re the good guy in the zombie apocalypse movie, and all this hate and polarization, it’s being propagated by the other people, because we’re Brad Pitt, right?” —Dr. Robb Willer, Polarization and Social Change Lab at Stanford University

When it comes to navigating the deepening ideological divide in America, what if we’re not so much the hero fighting the forces of evil—instead we’re accidentally acting just a little too much like “foot soldiers in the army of the undead,” wonders this episode’s special guest, Dr. Robb Willer.

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